Audio recording_1746015345786.m4a/2025-04-30
Audio recording_1746015345786.m4a/2025-04-30
Speaker A: Previous minutes. I think we all did that online through. Through the Daisy app. And really our last meeting was only the one where we were elected as the officers and the date of this meeting was set anyway, so I'm not going to worry about that. Matters are rising. I think that we've got everything that's we wanted to talk as matters are rising included in old business. Anyone got anything that they think of matters arising that's not in old business? In which case we'll move straight on to old business. PS 47 construction update. And I'm going to throw the floor over to Kiel because he's been closer to it than I have. Although I'm now trying to be involved as much as I can with Kiel.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've been really involved as of late. So where do I start? I mean, you guys have heard a lot of this, right? We've been trying to get updates from them for a long time. We were in contact with a person called Joshua Adams who was part of the External Affairs Department. He's not the project manager. We actually just met with the project manager for the first time today. Couldn't get a hold of anybody. Finally got a hold of somebody a few months ago. That was the head of the Manhattan division, the sca. He threw me a couple people's emails. Jos, and we're just. I just started talking about the construction stuff. He threw me a couple people's emails. I got in touch with somebody in the legal department. They told us that they wanted to start doing an access agreement, license agreement they call it, with us. This was a few months ago. And then a couple weeks ago around like April 9th or something like that, we started hearing construction noises in the south part of the building. So behind the B and C lines. I didn't even know it was the construction company, the sca. I assumed that it was construction crews working on that restaurant on 23rd. They called on five, so Drazen probably heard me, but I was screaming outside of my deck for them to stop doing what they were doing because it was like 8 o'clock at night and they were sawing metal. Turned out it was the school Construction authority and they were starting to set up protections and scaffolding in the back now. Not on our property. They're setting it up on the 23rd street property in their backyard. So spoke to the contractor, sent some emails to the head of the SCBA on the 10th. Never heard back. Then we started hearing complaints from you guys in the A line about dust and everything. I Was away last week, they told.
Speaker C: Us, because it's been going on till 11 o'clock at night. Yeah, they're allowed to work that late, which is in sane to me.
Speaker B: Yeah, okay.
Speaker C: Yeah, 11:00. They've been working till 11:00. Just so everyone knows that. Okay, forget it. Yeah, bishop was till 8 or 9 o'clock. I gotta get time for finals. It's a disaster.
Speaker B: They, they, the contractor told us that they have work hour variances from 3 to 11. They do the late shift because kids are in school. They said they'll try to do stuff, you know, not they'll try to wrap up the loud stuff by like 9 or 10. But obviously that hasn't been the case. Once we started hearing about all the dust that was happening, I sent a bunch more really angry emails and calls and I had phone numbers for like, the head of the sca. No one was responding. Finally, the person in the law department responded and said, I need your lawyer's contact information. I was like, well, we're not talking to you about a license agreement until my eight points are addressed. Like, we need to know what phases you're working on. We need to know when you're gonna do it. We need to know what the schedule is. I need to know if you're gonna switch hours in the summer when the school is done. I need you to put up adequate protections. All this stuff that went unanswered for a while, Chris happened to.
Speaker C: When was the first time you asked for all that?
Speaker B: Well, I asked for that stuff a while back and then I re asked for it last week.
Speaker C: So we asked free. We never got it when it started. Years ago.
Speaker B: No. All we get.
Speaker C: Why all of a sudden would they start giving it to us now?
Speaker B: Yeah, that's the hard part. So then Chris ran into an alumni of his at an event maybe last week or so, and that guy happened to work in the industry. He works for a company that works on behalf of contractors that have jobs with the sca. So we got on a call with him last night and he talked us through kind of what we need to do. So I submitted the dust complaint. Maria submitted a dust complaint. Chris was gonna submit one, but we had those other two. So we had those two. This guy found us some contacts with the SCA's safety division. So he spoke to one of those guys on the phone. Chris's friend spoke to one of those guys on the phone. He basically said that he'd issued a couple stop work orders for this construction crew previously for this part of the job and that he needs to come back and do an inspection. The head of the SCA accidentally texted me today. He meant to text somebody else something about me, but he texted it back to me. So I was like, you. I was like, you need to call me right now. So he called me and I laid into him and he apologized and is like, this is not how we want to be. We need to be better. I explained the whole protections thing. I explained the dust, I explained the lack of communication. He said he'd get on top of it. All of a sudden the project manager showed up. I introduced myself and I was like, it's great to meet you after two years. And we talked to him for, and I did for about 20 minutes. He's gonna be around more. He is gonna. He said he was gonna make sure that they put up a better protection on, on the A line while they finish the demo. He said once the demo is done, which is supposed to be by tomorrow, that there won't be any more dust issue because they'll just be putting the bricks up at that point. So there won't be any breaking of any bricks.
Speaker C: Will there be any more noise?
Speaker B: Well, I'm sure there'll be some noise, but I don't think there's going to be.
Speaker C: I mean, not like noise, obviously there's noise, but I mean, yeah, drilling. I should have asked.
Speaker A: There should be any more demo. No.
Speaker C: Oh, this is what I'm hearing.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker B: They're demolishing all the bricks and that's why you've got all that red dust. They might have to do a little bit of drilling because there's these like little. If you look at the building on the north side, these little metal plates that are like this big and I think they line up the bricks. They actually, they might get glued on, I don't know. But there's. There should be way less.
Speaker C: The last two years that this scaffolding is on, they didn't start the work.
Speaker A: No, they did the. They did the middle section of the school. They didn't do the east or west corners of the school.
Speaker C: Why did the scaffolding have to go up two years ago?
Speaker A: Yeah, they. Well, I've written to the mayor actually about the scaffolding and the way.
Speaker C: I mean, this is not like the rule, the law that you have to scaffold an area you're not doing. Or is it because they're starting a project?
Speaker A: The mayor expressed his wish that any non active project was to get netting and the sidewalk Sheds removed. So I wrote to the mayor about this because the sidewalk shed have been up for a while. And like a week later they actually started the work. So they would have had to have the sidewalk shed there anyway. But that's different issue. What they were doing at the beginning was the center part of the school, both on the 23rd street side and on the 24th street side. Now they're doing the four corners, and that's what's causing us the real vibration and the noise because it's that close to us.
Speaker B: Yeah. And Maria, they had to put up the scaffold, the protection right at the beginning because that's when a piece of the build, like a piece of the building fell.
Speaker C: Yeah, I just realized that as I said that. And now you can see the shit that's falling that falls down like randomly on this thing. It's like scary.
Speaker A: And they're replacing the roof as well. But the one thing that Kiel hasn't mentioned yet, which he's going to, is the fact that to do the actual west side of the school is over a building and I'm going to throw it back to Keel again.
Speaker B: Yeah. So they're going to finish the front. They're going to redo all the bricks and they got to put in all new windows. And then they're starting on the western edge of the building that abuts our building in the middle of the block, but going south, so not over our building. So starting at the chimney, not including the chimney, from what I understand, they're going south towards 23rd. So they're scaffolding back there. Now after that, they're going to want to come over to the area above our building. Now, that's all TBD because we have not seen a license agreement. But a person from the legal department emailed the building lawyer and said, I have the flu. I'm gonna start getting you a draft license agreement soon. So we'll start to see more there. We'll see what they come back with. And then Chris and I, and I hope everyone else can think of a laundry list of demands that we have. It's going to involve cleaning, it's going to involve sweeping, it's going to involve hosing. It's going to involve protecting the air conditioners up on the roof, you know, things like that. So we'll see what they come with and then we'll. We'll go from there.
Speaker C: And Chris told me it's November 2026, that they're done with the project.
Speaker B: The project manager today told me that he thinks around. He said September 2026, they would be able to remove the scaffolding on the front of the building and over our building.
Speaker C: That's so insane.
Speaker D: So basically we're going to have this.
Speaker B: What, three and a half years?
Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B: February 2023 was when it came up. Yeah.
Speaker A: Now, as you think of laundry list of things that we want to put into our blackmail list, if you want to call it that, for the license agreement, I have already said, because I know Drazen and sorry, not everyone's probably going to come up with, I want our air conditioners cleaned by experts who will take them out of the walls in our apartments, clean them and put them back, which will not be the main contractor. It will be be licensed contractors to do that kind of work, but paid for by the school construction authority.
Speaker B: Yeah. And I mean, I don't, I don't think we need to spend too much time in this meeting on that stuff just because we haven't seen the license agreement yet. So I don't want to get ahead of ourselves too much. And I don't even know when the license agreement is going to come. And Drazen, I'm going to delay it as much as I possibly can because it's going to affect our decks.
Speaker A: And what is our leverage there if.
Speaker D: You don't, if we decide not to.
Speaker A: Sign the first draft that they send, what is, what is the leverage?
Speaker D: What can we do?
Speaker B: So the lawyer said that they cannot do any work over our building until we sign a license agreement. And if we refuse to, they could take us to court. But the school is not going to want to do that because Don's like, it'll take forever and the school will lose because you have all this documented stuff. And that's why Chris has said take pictures of everything, take videos, document time and dates of things. So they would have to take us to court, the court would have to force us to sign a license agreement. So we have the upper hand here. And that's why I think that we'll get an outcome that, that we want to get.
Speaker A: One of the things that they did tell us was the work that they're doing under, under license from the building on 24th, 23rd street behind ours, they are actually going to wrap that scaffold in. He's going to make sure now the project manager that that scaffold is wrapped in dust proof material so we don't get dust coming over into the room. Rear apartments of our building are similar to what we've Got in the front?
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. You know, like, when we did the. When we did our. Our fire escape sanding, right, the whole thing was covered in a tarp. So, I mean, dust went back into our building, but dust didn't go anywhere else. So if they just have a tarp wrapped on the three sides like that, then it should really contain the dust. And it's something that Maria. I spoke to them about. I was like, why didn't you do this for the front? And he's like, well, you know, legally, we don't have to do it because we're on our own property. And in order to do something like that, to protect your building, we would need an access agreement with you. And I was like, yes. That's why I've been trying to get some sort of movement since February 23rd from the SCA. So, you know, they've just really, really been dropping the ball. But it seems like we've got people's attention at this point. We've got a lot of contacts, and we've got the. We've got the complaints going, too. So we've got the Safety division of the SCA saying they're going to look into stuff, and we've got these dust complaints with the Department of Environmental Protection. And I remember when I complained about the noise thing, they actually called me. So they'll probably call us and we can talk to them and everything.
Speaker C: Will they be reimbursing us for everything they stained? Okay, great.
Speaker B: I mean, unless.
Speaker C: Red brick dust stains everything.
Speaker B: Unless we can wait for them to see my bill, Unless we can get stuff into the license agreement. But it's probably going to be hard to. To go backward in time.
Speaker C: Well, no, that was recent with the video, so, I mean, like, that's now. And I've got all the evidence, and it's, like, serious. And if you breathe it in, there's also more. More problems. And. And that, like, I mean, it's gonna be. I'm gonna take it and I'm gonna go big because this is irresponsible. And I. And I am so happy that I have such expensive things in my apartment because I'm gonna rake them over the coals. That's it. I'm telling you now. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go big if this doesn't get rectified. I mean, this is unbelievable. What it looks like upstairs, what it looks like down here, like my white car. I mean, like, come on, you guys. It's unacceptable. This is no way I'm gonna let This, I take care of everything myself. I never complain about getting people to do things. This. I'm drawing the line.
Speaker A: This is not class action suit, to be quite honest. And we'll probably find people in multiple adjoining buildings that would be joining that class action soon. My friend in the building behind, he's got an air quality. He last night said that peaked out at stuff. You know, it's. It's. It's going to get stupid. I mean, we're expecting them to pay for our lawyers fees for certain as well. That's one of the bills they're going to be getting, right?
Speaker B: Well, yeah, that's. That's standard. I don't know how much luck you're going to have, Maria. You might have to do a person.
Speaker C: I know, I know. I mean, I have. I have so many things that are scary stained. I have so many things. I don't know what. What I can do with it, but I'm gonna. I'm gonna see what I can do. But this is like so crazy. It stains. It stained the suede. I had so much. I mean, it's crazy. I'm not gonna just let them, you know, be like, oh, sorry. Oh, okay.
Speaker B: You probably want to talk to a civil lawyer, like a. Like a civil lawsuit lawyer.
Speaker C: I mean, I'm gonna wait and see what you guys do, and then I'll take it from there. Yeah, if we're just a licensing agreement, I don't know what a license agreement will cover, but, like, if it covers damages, I got enough. I got enough to. To. Yeah, enormous.
Speaker A: It has to cover damages, damage in my apartment. That's why I sent the email out to everybody on the A line to start the documenting and everything else, because until that point, I had no idea how. How bad it was. And then Maria, when I saw the old video, you know, that was done. I think that we've probably driven this one to all we can really say about it. Yeah, we should send out a letter to our fellow shells, have Daisy shareholders telling them that, you know, we. We are trying to be on top of this and we'll probably kill. Now. You and I will talk about that. So then.
Speaker B: Oh, yeah, last thing with this. Our lawyer thinks it's prudent and he will draft it a letter to the SCA that basically outlines all this. And he said it's basically a cover your ass letter. So it starts a process. It starts a paper trail. And if we ever needed to use it, it would be a good thing to have. So I just wanted to get everyone's agreement on that. I don't imagine it, it would be expensive at all. So if everyone's cool with that, I'll tell him to go ahead and draft that up. So that'll be like a, you know, a letter to the SCA on lawyer letterhead detailing a lot of this and we can send it around for everyone's input and all that.
Speaker A: Cool. Fantastic. Thank you.
Speaker B: Cool.
Speaker A: I'm going to move on to the next item, the mouse infestation. Last month I had a meeting in apartment 3B with the itkins, the standard with the exterminator. Gertie was there as well and we went over stuff. Basically there are holes in there. They're the only ones seeing the affected at the moment. Buying the mine next door and everything else. They're in the wall. They must be coming from the wall. That's between me and the Air Kings but they're not making to my side yet. Touch wood. Bottom line is the exterminator said, look, what you really need to do is put in a coving that seals the bottom of the walls to the floor. Apart from filling in any holes that goes completely around their kitchens, like 4 inches up the wall and 1 inch across the floor and it's made of steel and you know, completely impervious to mice. And they are baseboard. Sorry?
Speaker B: It's like a baseboard. Right, But a really legit one. Yeah.
Speaker A: It actually adheres to the floor as well as the wall. And they are going, as far as I understand, they understand that that is their expense and they are going to go ahead and commission getting that work done. Their apartment is not, I've heard fears about the fact that, you know, there was debris around the apartment. Their apartment is completely clean. There isn't food left out in the kitchen or anything like that. It is completely clean. The bicep lady into my apartment. I'm expecting them any day. When that gets sealed I'm expecting them to then start on mine.
Speaker B: It's just crazy that they've just only really. I mean I know that each of us have had issues but not to the extent. I don't know how much of what Lauren was saying was hyperbole but I mean she said like a hundred. I, I, I just can't imagine how that could be in one apartment.
Speaker C: When I had a couple of exterminators come come to assess the situation, all signs pointed to the tree outside. That was a sick problem. And so they know a long time ago did what he could and put some poison in there. That was dog safe and put something in there. But he said that that's really the source of your issue. So I have every single hole boarded up in here. As you know, I, you know, I had to do that. And everything's in containers because, you know, you do the list, you have to go through everything. So far so good. But like he said, the mask source for this building. Not just me, just for the building.
Speaker B: It was a. What source?
Speaker C: The source of all the rodentia is from the tree. He thinks the tree is a very big part of the story. I mean, not just me. You know, it didn't. It didn't solve my problem. I hold everything up. But he did say that, that there are rats that are going down there. Like that's what they do. They burrow down there. I had no idea.
Speaker B: Into the two trees that we have outside. That's what you're talking about, right?
Speaker C: One tree. He saw evidence that that was being burrowed.
Speaker B: Probably the one that we've been mentioning.
Speaker A: Let me just.
Speaker C: That was.
Speaker D: That's the tree guy.
Speaker A: We don't have any rats. It's mice. And the mice do not live, coexist with rats.
Speaker C: Yes, he showed burrowing, whatever. So maybe the rats are going somewhere else. But he said that was a source of rodentia. So.
Speaker A: Yeah, he has had experience with that in 1A. Not in the building, but in a previous residence. She had experience with that. And we currently have open with the city. And Jared's the one on point, point on this. But we have open actually with the city. They're supposed to come within a certain number of days to look at that tree. But we have two things open with Daisy for the tree. And I tried to get them to combine it. One was when we first thought it was the sidewalk, shared a bush of the tree and everything else. Now you can see that there is rat tunnels underneath the tree that have made it worse. Shall we say that we know there's rats under that tree.
Speaker B: So standard is supposed to come. Sorry, Jed, just someone. Let me just say the standard is supposed to come and look at the tree. Our pest company. So we've got. We're going in the right direction.
Speaker C: Did we call the arborist, the city arborist to come and try and make sure the tree doesn't go anywhere?
Speaker B: We did.
Speaker D: So the city is responsible for the trees. It is not our responsibility. It's not our payment. So I called 311 and I spoke to somebody. They said they would come in the next three to 10 days. That was done On Friday.
Speaker C: Okay.
Speaker D: So they will come, they will look at both trees and they're responsible for basically, like, protecting the tree. Because if you look, the tree is falling over, and that was what started me initially. It's one like falling into the street. And because of that, it'll likely trigger the city to take action more quickly.
Speaker C: Right.
Speaker D: Because if the tree actually falls and hits a car, it's the state's or the city's responsibility. So they're going to come look at the tree, determine what they think the issue is, and they'll be responsible for basically getting rid of the tunnels, remulching it, like, all the things. So I have a case number. I think Keel might have put in a case as well. But I spoke to somebody, which. And she was super helpful and kind of walked me through the whole scenario.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker D: Now, 10 days is. I don't know if it's business days or not, but that's basically Monday of next week. And hopefully by then they will have come. They said they would not call me. They said they would just look at it and determine what they want to do. The case is open, so I can't go look it up to see if they take action on it. But that's at least the update with the tree as far as what the city's gonna do with it.
Speaker A: Right. Thank you, Jared. And while we're looking at that tree, you may have noticed someone has damaged the metal surround. We'll deal with that as another thing after this is all done.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker A: Removed or what it's going to be, but eventually we'll get that dealt with.
Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I don't think it's a big deal. It's just a little bit of the fence around the tree.
Speaker A: Because we talked about two different things here. Going back to the mice. As I say, the Idkins are going to be getting the work done that has been recommended by our exterminator, Jacob, who was there. And I'm expecting that when they get sealed up, that I'm probably going to get mice. But we'll see. Because my contractor did a pretty good job of sealing my place when I had it done 20 years ago. You know, he did a good job. We will have to see.
Speaker B: Mm. So hopefully that will fix things. I just. Yeah. Again, I just. I don't know how much is hyperbole. I emailed her and asked her some questions, Chris, like, you know, two weeks ago, she never really responded to me, but she said she wasn't like, I understand. Like, I feel bad. She said she was putting them in humane traps. But, like, then what are you doing with them? You just letting them outside to come back in? Like, what do you.
Speaker A: Because that was asked during our meeting. Okay. Now taking them several blocks away, I think maybe over to the park and releasing them.
Speaker B: All right.
Speaker A: Can't use poison because they've got cancer.
Speaker B: Yeah. No, I mean, I get it. I. I understand why she doesn't want to kill them, but. Okay.
Speaker A: Our regular exterminator, Jacob, is. Is now, you know, very familiar with what's going on with this and everything else, and be keeping an eye on it, apart from what any specialists do. And we're just gonna have to wait till, you know, that goes on. I mean, they're the ones affected, so it's not like they're going to be. Not getting stuff done.
Speaker B: Yep. All right, so we're going in the right direction there. Once they get that cleat cleared up, we can see what happens. I mean, it seems like most of us really have an issue, some here and there, which I guess is to be expected. I think part of it, like we've said over the. Over the two years, I think a lot of this is driven by the school construction, because I don't remember us really having an issue before the school construction. So hopefully that settles down as the. As the drilling stops, and we'll just keep monitoring.
Speaker A: Yep. Okay.
Speaker C: Just so for the record, kill. There was a big mouse problem before school construction in Sue's apartment, Stacy's apartment, and my apartment, and Mike's apartment. So in that quadrant. Yeah, there was. There's always been a serious problem.
Speaker B: Do you think it's gotten better since we brought in the new, like. Because I remember we sealed up a ton of holes in the basement. Like, you had your guy come in. And then we switched pest control companies when we moved over with brickwork, and they seem to be doing a better job.
Speaker C: I honestly don't think pest control is the answer. I think that the holes have to be sealed. Like, the only time, like, I've had. I was crazy. I used to have an exterminator. Every week. I went ballistic. My own, you know, I was crazy. But until I actually sealed and spent a couple thousand dollars on sealing the hole, it didn't stop. So now. Fingers crossed.
Speaker B: Yeah.
Speaker C: Something in through the front anymore? I think the scaffolding is. Seal is preventing it, so I can't do any work yet until the scaffolding is removed.
Speaker B: Okay.
Speaker C: That's another source. But, like, it's, like, not. It's not A trap situation. You have to get to the source and that's what they're gonna do now that you can. So it should be fine. Hopefully. Yeah.
Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, I've noticed too, even in my apartment, when I look behind my appliances, it could have been constructed better. Like there isn't a baseboard there. And I think that's the issue is just when these apartments were built and then when they were remodeled, people just, they cut corners and they didn't put baseboards and stuff there. And it's so hard because like you said, Maria, you got to rip stuff out to get to it now sucks, but yeah, it's worth it. It's worth it. Yeah.
Speaker A: Well, that's what things are going to be doing in their place now. Once they can't get into the IT kids, who knows where from the the.
Speaker B: Commonwealth, hopefully they'll give up because hopefully there won't be as much of a food source too, because they have the cat food out.
Speaker C: Chris, for your own safety and whatever, I mean, you should seal your holes, right? You got holes.
Speaker A: That's the point. Like Mike, my contractor, when he redid my place, did a pretty good job, you know, And I have gone and checked them and I checked my bathroom every day, you know, to see a bit where and things like that.
Speaker B: So. Okay, good.
Speaker C: You're lucky.
Speaker A: We will see. All right, moving along. Gas detectors in units. Again, Keel's been on top of a lot of these things, but we. He came up, Daisy came up with to put in there. And we're going battery powered ones. They just have to deliver. Deliver them.
Speaker B: Yep. Yeah, they said that they're just working out final logistics to get them delivered once they're delivered. I mean, I would hope that we're all smart enough good enough to put them up. If not, I'd be willing to help. Since they're just like a smoke detector. There's just a couple regulations as to where they need to be. Right. They got to be within a foot of the ceiling and they got to be between 3 and 10ft horizontally from the appliance. So if you think about your stove is like against the wall. Let's say you put it up at the ceiling, you put it three feet away from the wall, I think would be the way to do it. That would be within three feet of where the gas hookup is on the wall. So that's really it. And they got a 10 year battery life. I mean, we just gotta see how well they perform. What we don't want is we don't Want them going off and somebody calling 311 and Con Ed and having them shut. Come and shut our gas off because then it. Then it's a whole issue. So I think we just got to say to shareholders, like if yours, if yours starts beeping like notify Daisy. And then Daisy can have just somebody go like a plumber come and shut off their gas and. And then we can figure it out from there. But the last thing we want is Con Ed to come and do a building wide shutdown.
Speaker D: My friend had that done to his building. It's horrible. We're cooking off of hot plates for a good year if that happens.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean we got a couple.
Speaker C: Of loose cannons in the building. No?
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, we do. So that's. We gotta really be good about communication on this when we hand these out. I mean, probably just pray there's the only other. The other way to do it was there's these really expensive ones that like send signals to a company. But it was, it was like five or six grand to install and then it was one or two grand a year just to maintain. And it's just. It seems like such a large expense for building this small. So guess we'll see how it goes with these. I mean if they're as good as a smoke detector, then hopefully they won't go off because it's not like our smoke detectors are always going off.
Speaker D: Is there to reduce. I mean, granted I'm new ish to the building, so I don't know who the loose cannons are, but is there, is there value in asking people to like list me as like the main contact? So whatever goes off, they reach out to me and then I go to Daisy versus asking people to go to Daisy. If that makes great.
Speaker B: Hey, if you're willing to. That would be really appreciated because we have in between and hopefully it won't really come to it.
Speaker D: Yeah, I think that's fine. Then I could just be the person who goes to Daisy. But otherwise if they don't have like a. I can imagine people start freaking out if like Daisy's app is broken. At least they can moan to me to you kill.
Speaker A: Notice the keels and mind information is up. It says if there's a boiler issue, go to one of us. There's a couple of notices to that effect around. My aim though is as far as this corporation is concerned, we're paying a management company. We don't. We don't want to be the first line. We want them to at least register and open up an instant with Daisy. Even if they then escalate to a.
Speaker D: Board member, I'm saying I will put the ticketing preemptively.
Speaker C: Striking. Yeah.
Speaker B: Right.
Speaker D: I don't want this person to go rogue and calling Con Ed and. And then we're all front for a year. This is different than everything else.
Speaker C: You definitely don't want that. I think having a point person in house is very comforting. I think it's a great idea, Jared. I think it's really good. I mean, all you do is one person who's actually doesn't live here, happens to be visiting, sees that. Oh, my God. What do I do? You never know. You never know. And then we're all screwed.
Speaker A: All of them. Make that clear in the letter that goes out when we get to this. Yes, Jared, you'll be taking point. We're using your mobile phone number, is that correct?
Speaker C: Yeah, that's fine.
Speaker A: Okay, well, we'll involve you with that letter. To be quite honest, I mean, it might be best that it, you know, gets written by you for Daisy to distribute. We'll, you know, we'll talk about chat.
Speaker D: Gbt.
Speaker B: Do it.
Speaker C: Yeah.
Speaker A: Okay. So that's how they're supposed to be in by the first of May. Well, guess what? They're not going to be installed by 1 May. We know that because. And, yeah, we'll see how that goes. But, Jared, thank you for jumping up on that one as well as the tree. You're. You're taking on some good responsibilities here for a new board member and we appreciate. Appreciate it. Okay, moving on. Sidewalk trim treatment issues we've already talked about. We don't need to go back into that again, see what happens. The reason I have Daisy Building Management interface on there, there's been various complaints about Daisy responses and about Daisy, Daisy's app failing and things like this. And I've been trying to set up a meeting with the management at Daisy, and finally next week, Keel and I will be meeting with the. What was that title?
Speaker B: User experience or something. I actually. I had a call today with someone who does user experience with the app separate from this thing. Chris. It's just someone that I've been working with since I started with Daisy, just to give them feedback.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: The great thing about them, though, is they take all this feedback with the app and with everything, and they actually do stuff about it. Whereas you tell Andrews or you tell Brickwork and, you know, they tell you to go yourself. So this. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely issues with the app and Daisy dropped The ball a couple times here and there, like with that plumbing incident. But they tend to make things right. So.
Speaker A: Yeah. And so basically if anyone has anything to feedback if they can feed it to Keel and I before next it's. Is it Tuesday? I can't remember which date it is now.
Speaker B: Tuesday, May 6th.
Speaker A: May 6th, 1pm I think we're meeting with them. So if there's anything, let us know before then. Great. That's the end of the. Is there any other new business that people need to discuss at this meeting?
Speaker B: I have one quick thing. So. So each year we do the abatement assessments. Last year we did them for the. In the bill due June 1st. I'd like to do it at the same time if everyone agrees. And we'll do an exact offset again. So the building, I mean the building's gonna net $8 just because I have to do it to the cent. But the abatements came out to $41,272. And we're gonna bill back through an assessment, 41,280. So eight bucks more. And again it all goes unit by unit. Right. So anyone with like a senior citizen exemption ends up with a net credit. In all of us, non senior citizen exemption people end up with the net assessment. And Jared for you, because I think it wasn't listed as your primary residence last year, you don't get any credits, but you've changed that since, so it should apply next year.
Speaker A: I'm sorry, Kiel. At the beginning of the meeting I somehow jumped past financial update. I didn't mean to do that.
Speaker B: That's all right.
Speaker A: Maybe you want to do give us that quickie now.
Speaker B: I mean I haven't looked at anything else other than that everything looks fine cash wise and stuff. I mean we've only really had the $2,500 plumber charge. It's gonna be something like 1200 or 1300 bucks for the gas detectors. So we're doing good on expenses. We already talked about renegotiating the insurance on the annual call. It went up a little bit. Still need to negotiate the umbrella policy that renews in July. So that hasn't started yet. And still waiting on final tax, real estate taxes from the city, but I've already kind of budgeted an increase there because that's what they do, they go up every year.
Speaker C: So what's the typical increase?
Speaker B: Last two years ago, like 3%. And it's a. I mean it's a big chunk of our expenses. Right? It's like $142,000. And so. So that's a large. I mean, we bring in 360 this year because when we raise maintenance. So 142. Over 360. 40%, right. So 40% of our expenses is our real estate taxes. So I budgeted this year a 3% increase again. And we will see. So we got 12,000 or so a month. And there's some tentative stuff that's coming out.
Speaker C: Yeah, I forgot in the past. I don't know if you've ever answered this, but have we ever. I think you did hire someone to see if we could. Yeah, we did. What did. What kind of. What is that person. Is that a lawyer? What is it? What. What is that?
Speaker B: Yeah, it's a law firm. Sonnen, Sondham, Sherman and Deutsche.
Speaker A: Yes. But for 30 years we've been using the same company.
Speaker B: So I didn't know. I. I wasn't sure if they existed or not. Like, I was like, do they actually do anything? So I got on the phone with them last year, Maria and I talked to a guy, like, and he knew all about our building and he, like, pulled up our information and everything. You know, they basically, they go and they contest, you know, for like a hundred buildings in one day. And they use comps and everything. So, yes, we have somebody that does it. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker C: Okay. I was just curious, I'm sure.
Speaker B: Yeah. Can I get approval on the abatement assessment? Just 2752 or share. I mean, I can share my screen here and just show you how this works. Just so you know. So. Yeah. So here was last year. Right. Here was our credits back this year, slightly less. Like I said, it's by unit here. So everyone gets credits and then depending on how much I choose to charge back. Right. You get the charge back and then the difference. Yeah. So, you know, now Wilner still got her.
Speaker A: We still got Wilner's credit in there?
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, we do. We still have Wilner's credit. Now, how that will work. I mean, Jared, you. You. You're gonna sign a form that basically puts the honest between you and Gary to figure out, you know.
Speaker D: Sorry, bro, can you say that again?
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So you're gonna sign up. You're gonna sign a document with Gary in order to close on the apartment or 4B.
Speaker D: This is like the Eagle 9 thing.
Speaker B: No, no, this is. This is the abatement assessments. So Marsha is due, you know, $5,100 basically. But we're gonna pay it to whoever is the Owner of the building as a June 1st. So we're gonna give it to you. But you're going to sign an agreement.
Speaker A: I think we need to discuss that, Kiel. I think it should go to the corporation.
Speaker B: No, no, no, no. We've already figured this all out. We assess and we credit the owner of record at the time of the assessment credit. And then the owner and the two owners sign a document at closing that say that they're going to figure out how they want to split the money.
Speaker A: Okay, fine, fine. That's all I wanted to make sure of. But yeah, I mean basically the building could try and seal it, you know, but it's not going to exist after this financial year.
Speaker B: So. Yeah, I mean Gary's gonna gonna. There's no way for us to take it. It's due to Gary. But we assess back against it. But he gets a net credit. But it's going to go to Jared. As long as Jared closes, you know, soon Jared will have to pay it back to Gary. Assuming that's how they want to do it. That's the calculation. It's just look at everyone's amounts, charge it back. How much is the I have to.
Speaker D: Jump to my work thing. That's at seven. I don't know if there's anything else.
Speaker B: But if there is, I guess Kiel.
Speaker D: We can talk about it offline.
Speaker B: Yeah, sure. I don't have anything else on my side at least.
Speaker A: We have to decide a next meeting date. That's one important thing we have to do right now.
Speaker D: We do it every quarter.
Speaker A: It's been two monthly recently. Do we need one in a month's time because of what's going on? We've got a lot going on. I think we do.
Speaker D: May is really bad for me, but if you want to pick dates in June, I'm probably okay. But May I'm gone a few times. Like two separate one week trips.
Speaker A: I have the week that's better for everyone. Tuesday.
Speaker C: Just so you know, the drilling. I can't hear.
Speaker D: I gotta say goodbye.
Speaker B: All right, see you later. No, seriously.
Speaker A: What?
Speaker C: I didn't hear you. What week are we looking at? Sorry?
Speaker B: Why don't we look around the first week of June?
Speaker A: In the first week of June we should be doing this because.
Speaker B: Yeah, I think that maybe at that point we might have a little bit more details about. About the SCA stuff. June 3rd is a Tuesday.
Speaker C: Yeah, I'm good. I think the 2nd and the 3rd are the only days I'm good that week.
Speaker A: Okay. The third is not good for me. Because I've got responsibility for the eight year old. I'd rather do Monday the second Monday the second than the third. If that works for and Drazen.
Speaker D: Yeah, I'm good. John is journey is totally okay.
Speaker A: That first week is. Or first two weeks.
Speaker D: Yeah.
Speaker B: When are you back? A couple weeks.
Speaker A: I'm back on the Monday 12th. The 12th.
Speaker B: Okay.
Speaker A: Okay, so let's do this on Monday, June 2nd. Plan it for that day.
Speaker C: What time?
Speaker A: 6:30. Works for people.
Speaker B: 6:30 or 6.
Speaker C: 6:30 is better for me, if that's okay.
Speaker A: 6:30. Well, you're the secretary. You'll begin sending the notices out any Maria. Anyway, Mar. So June 2nd at. At 6:30. 6:30.
Speaker C: Okay, great.
Speaker A: I think that was the only other thing I wanted to make sure we did on this meeting. Does anyone else have anything else before we close the meeting? I'm sure we're going to informal meetings between now and then, but.
Speaker B: No, I'm good. We ticked all the boxes on my side.
Speaker C: All right, June 2nd. See you then.
Speaker A: Okay, everybody.
Speaker D: Appreciate it.
Speaker B: All right.
Speaker D: Thanks for join.
Meeting Highlights: Construction and More
Attendees
- Speaker A
- Speaker B (Kiel)
- Speaker C
- Speaker D (Jared)
Agenda Items
- Previous minutes and matters arising
- PS 47 construction update
- Mouse infestation
- Gas detectors in units
- Sidewalk and tree treatment issues
- Daisy Building Management interface
- Financial update
- Next meeting date
Summary
The meeting began by confirming that previous minutes were reviewed online. The bulk of the discussion centered around the PS 47 construction update, highlighting communication issues with the School Construction Authority (SCA) and related concerns about noise, dust, and hours of operation. A lawsuit and items needed for a license agreement were debated.
The mouse problem was discussed, pinpointing issues in the walls and some apartments, with solutions like steel coving being considered. Gas detectors are to be installed soon, with Jared taking a point contact role for potential issues. Updates on Daisy Building Management and the financial status were brief, with a meeting to discuss Daisy's performance next week.
The session concluded with scheduling the next board meeting and an outline of the financial impact from assessments.
Outline
PS 47 Construction Update
- Kiel provided updates on the SCA project and communication challenges.
- Concerns about construction noise and dust were discussed.
- Potential legal actions and license agreement requirements were considered.
Mouse Infestation
- Discussion on sealing holes and installing coving in affected apartments.
- Pest control issues linked to construction disturbances were identified.
Gas Detectors in Units
- Plans for installation of gas detectors were outlined.
- Jared will be the main point of contact for related issues.
- Clear guidelines will be provided to residents on handling alerts.
Sidewalk and Tree Treatment Issues
- City responsibility for tree maintenance and sidewalk issues highlighted.
- Jared managed communication with city officials regarding tree and rodent evidence.
Daisy Building Management Interface
- Meeting scheduled to address feedback and app issues next week.
Financial Update
- Abatement assessment discussed, with calculations for unit credits and expenses.
Next Meeting Date
- Scheduled for June 2nd at 6:30 PM.
Action Items
- Kiel to draft complaints and handle license agreement details regarding construction.
- Jared to lead communication on tree and sidewalk matters with the city.
- Gas detectors to be procured and installed by Kiel, with Jared as contact during use.
- Meeting with Daisy management to be attended by Kiel and Speaker A.
- Speaker A and the board to send updates and letters to residents about the construction and related issues.